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Offline Bud B

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Rear or Side mount TM?
« on: January 05, 2011, 07:07:51 AM »
    Just picked up my TM, Dealers put it in side door.  Looks like it may be wasted space behind seats due to machine build.   I thought about installing it in rear of van instead of side door.   Will mounting machine in rear of van trouble the handling of the van?  It is a one ton, regular length van, El Diablo TM, and maybe a water well on the other wheel well.
         One of the pros and con things of this machine is the diesel heater on rear of unit. TM mounted in side door makes it hard to service burner, where  as in rear mounted unit you can access the burner through side door.
              Any suggestions on location mount?          :017:

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 07:14:29 AM »
Middle of van gives the best weight distribution for most vans without modifications.

What else is on the side of the machine that might need service?

I've had a couple of rear mounts in cube vans. Had to add extra leaves to that corner to keep the vans level. Other than that it worked OK? The rears were rated for the weight we were carrying. Is yours rated to handle the weight?

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 07:44:46 AM »
        Mike , the only thing needing service on that side of van is recovery tank.  Recovery tank is made to fit over the wheel well on passenger side of van, leaving the other side open to be able to service machine motors, pumps, blower, etc.
            Weight?  I thought being a 1 ton I would not need to add leafs to suspension. 
     
      The dealer did say it might be comberson to work on heating unit if it were side mounted.  This is a long machine, it reaches from side door to van wall. (I think it may be like 61" long).   The 75 gal. recovery tank is side mounted on the Diablo.
      I've got to comadere my kids digital camera to get pics.
                         Not into it right now, just got back from offshore, my hands are killing me from cutting scallops, not much sleep to boot. Long watches, 12 on 4 off, you get about 3 hours rack time then up to bust rears again. I'M BEAT!                                                     

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 07:53:47 AM »
You can always try mounting it in the rear. The machine probably weighs something like 1000lbs dry. Add 8.8 pounds per gallon of water in any tanks. That's a lot of weight on one side.

If it sets level then you're good. If not you will need to add leafs to level it out. I know of a good spring shop if you need one.

Most machines do take up the whole width of the van when mounted in the side door.

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2011, 09:08:32 AM »
I looking to get a newer van this year. And I'm thinking of putting my tm in the rear. I think it would be easer to run the hose reel out the side, so I can pull hose straight in to the house. Also the exhaust would be blowing out the back so less chance that any would come in to the home.   

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2011, 11:34:42 AM »
   The way this machine mounts in the side with the recovery tank and the seats there is alot of wasted space between the two.  And mounting it in the side a hose reel is NOT going to fit beside it , I would have to go to the rear with the reels .
           The El Diablo is 700 lbs. dry.     If I went and mounted it in the rear I could install a water well that fits over the rear wheel well. I thought that this would help compensate for machine weight but thats only going to work till you use the water then its all on one side in the recovery tank.
          Imagine it, I already need a bigger van!           

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 01:50:52 PM »
I have had my TM for just shy of 4 years now and have never had a water well.  It was needed maybe 3 times on foreclosure jobs where they hadnt turned the water on yet. Always got it taken care of so not a big deal.  Now im not saying I wouldnt like a water well just saying that not having one isnt a real big deal. Just one more thing to possibly have to fix.

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 07:07:36 AM »
I have had my TM for just shy of 4 years now and have never had a water well.  It was needed maybe 3 times on foreclosure jobs where they hadnt turned the water on yet. Always got it taken care of so not a big deal.  Now im not saying I wouldnt like a water well just saying that not having one isnt a real big deal. Just one more thing to possibly have to fix.
        Are you running a water filter system, reverse osmoses? 
         I'm wondering how to make more space before there is anymore holes drilled in the floors.  I have to get it inspected and I've already have to plug exhaust holes that were installed by the last company that owned  the van  (this is the third TM that has been in this van)  I will not have to worry about a drip pan, water will just run right down the old bolt holes in the floor!  Plus this van was all rhino lined , guess I can always put the 3M 5200 to the holes, (this stuff is the killer goop) you can even apply this stuff under water.

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 08:22:33 AM »
A water tank is a good idea to have in Maine.

Many people shut off the outside faucets in the winter so getting water can be a hassle. Many are also on private wells. The quality of the water from some is not that great.

We always ran reels out the back and never an issue.

Put some pipes under the machine and move it around to see where you like it best.

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 11:07:07 AM »
You can always try mounting it in the rear.

HA  :-\ :lol:

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 09:11:29 PM »
You can always try mounting it in the rear.

HA  :-\ :lol:

lol,

I am going to switch my tm to the rear when ever I get a few weeks of no rain. Man the soil is like a floating swamp at the moment. I put out a golf ball onto my lawn and it sank into the soil in a few hours..

I can say on almost every residential job I do, I regret putting the tm in the side door.
My econoline 1 ton can handle anything back there. It has a dually rearend from an HD4500 with locker posi. and the springs to match. It can hold upto 3 tons like its a paperweight. lol

Offline Bud B

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2011, 07:33:38 PM »
   I ended up going side door with it, after measuring everything it looked like I was getting more open space with the side installation. Put a 300' rokan reel in, so hoses are out the back door .  Did a job last week with it, what an animal it is!  First room was almost dry by the time I was leaving , (2 hrs.) .  Wand was bellowing steam after I turned it up from 180 degrees to 220 with plenty room left on thermostat (it goes to 302 degrees). Not sure what temp at wand was but you could not hang on to the quick connect.
    I thought I had a high powered porty but after running the El Diablo, there is NO comparison.   So far, very happy with purchase.

    I'm looking to fill the reels up and I'm going to be needing another 200' of hoses. Think I might go with the Raptor blast solution line but have no clue what to get for vac hose, would like it to be flexable, any suggestions. The hose that came with machine is kind of stiff I think.

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Re: Rear or Side mount TM?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 08:30:03 PM »
Most 2" is rather stiff.

The really soft and flexible stuff isn't really suitable for high heat TM use. Burned up or caved in a few of those in the day.

Are you running any 1.5" at the end? You could run a 10-15' section of that without too much loss on shorter residential style runs. Go 2" to the wand on longer runs.

 


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