Author Topic: Encap Upholstery  (Read 1540 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Brian

  • Guest
Encap Upholstery
« on: October 08, 2008, 12:08:25 AM »
Hello everyone,

Has anyone tried using Encap Green or any other Vacaway products for encaping upholstery?  We have used Releasit DS with great results, and we are thinking about giving Vacaway a try.

Thanks,

Brian

Offline jeffvanburen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2123
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 04:46:37 AM »
Brian-
 I have used alot of different encap chems on upholstery including vac away products all work well, I like them because most are just above neutral PH and you don't over wet the upholstery. I have used brushes, mitts, and Makita with 2 ways in conjuction with the cleaners.

Offline Mike M

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8832
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2008, 04:50:36 AM »
I cleaned over 2000 office chairs with Encap Green and it worked great.  ;D

Offline George Barnett

  • Cleaning Superhero
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 796
  • Cleaning Superhero
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 07:52:15 AM »
Used the Releasit DS and like the results. Will be using Releasit Basic next. Shipment came. Nice not to have the tea tree odor to deal with.

Offline Mike Charles

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 765
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 07:56:19 AM »
We use Encap Green as our main Upholstery cleaner, and have used Whamm/Z Bomb, Hot Knife & Shatter in the Encap chems.


Offline ChemBright

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6013
  • Certified by Customer Satisfaction!
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 09:03:37 AM »
I also use Encap Green as my main chem for cleaning upholstery. Works real well.

Brian

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 11:18:33 AM »
Thanks guys!

Encap Green it is!  We will give it a try,  and I will let you know the results.

Have great productive day.


Brian

clearlypro

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 07:06:34 AM »
I am the only one who still HWE's? I have a couch later today that is trrrrasssshed. Can I really really really just encap it?

I have a cyclo and a small OP machine...

Offline micky navarro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2551
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 08:03:57 AM »

on the extremely rare occassion, i get called for upholstery, i still use HWE   ;D

i would not use encap either!

Offline Mike M

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8832
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 08:23:18 AM »
If its that nasty use a combo method. Scrub with Cyclo then extract with HWE.

It works great as you found out with the mobile home carpet you did.

Offline Bill Martins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3850
  • Just do it
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 10:36:20 AM »
I use my vapor steamer for uph w/ the terry towel attachment when it's bad and my makita to pre-scrub w/ tuways, but it's much easier just using the vapor steamer plus most of the time i don't need to use any chems.

Dries very fast too.

Offline TimO

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 10:58:34 AM »

I only use HWE, and chem of choice is a self-neutralizing pre-spray by Kleenright. Starts at a 9.5Ph & w/in about 10 minutes or so it's down to a 6.5.

I've gotten very good results with it. I've tried encapping before, but haven;t had the same success. I may try some of the chems y'all are talking about to see for myself. More than one way to get great results.

clearlypro

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 03:35:08 PM »
Okay,

I did a couch several months ago with Releasit DS....no good. I walked it was so not good.

The lady asked me to try again or she'd have to sell the couch.

so I tried encap green and the cyclo....still nothing.

I have my porty so I hooked her up and tossed on the heater.

Friggin HUGE difference. It actually cleaned!

Thats it for me.

Offline Mo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2018
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 04:47:07 PM »
I had the same experience with heavily soiled upholstery. The best results are a combination of both, pre-scrub and the HWE.

Offline Bill Martins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3850
  • Just do it
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 06:10:28 PM »
I would only use Release-it DS for commercial grade, even Encap Clean foams a bit, since i no longer do uph by hand, i prefer vacaway's products, haven't used the cyclo but the makita has done good things.

Issue i have w/ an uph tool used w/ hwe is that it tends to look good right when you are done, i just get the feeling when it dries it will still look like crap.  I did uph hwe for a couple of years w/ the tm, always looked great till it dried...


clearlypro

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 06:21:25 PM »
Well, at least it looked better for a few minutes anyway.

it never looked good at all with any other way. ;D

Maybe it should be under some irrigation system?

Offline Bill Martins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3850
  • Just do it
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2009, 09:51:55 PM »
Some uph looks like crap w/ low moisture equip, while others look great. 

That's one of the main reasons i've switched to my vapor steamer...when it comes down to it, if they have not had their textiles cleaned in decades we aren't gonna make it look like store bought new, well maybe rent-a-center.

clearlypro

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 05:23:25 AM »
I am still learning my way around upholstery....

But I do NOT over-wet the fabric....I pull the trigger for water as I PULL the wand so little gets deep into the fabric. I also make no less than two dry passes... I go kinda slow so plenty of water is used IF the area is really dirty...then multiple dry passes...

I have yet to take a course but will do so this year some time.

having openly admitted here that I still need to study the art/science of cleaning upholstery, so far my experiences have been that encaping alone.....is worthless on the stuff I am getting.

In fact, yesterday when cleaning the couch, I saw immediate and drastic color change as I went. Before, using encap alone, I saw NO change at any point....ever.

My entire point here is IMHO and I stress HUMBLE, HWE is going to be my go-to tool for upholstery.

Offline micky navarro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2551
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2009, 05:50:21 AM »

when doing upholstery, the single most important part of the cleaning process is dwell time, but thats provided the correct cleaning agent is used.

another thing to bear in mind is this..........

some fabric responds much better then others. now i'm not talking about walmart type fabric, or that micro fiber/faux suede ****, i mean polished cottons, shintzs, brocades, etc........
one must be quite careful doing that stuff, but once ya know yer scrupples with it, ya'll can HWE it to death, with moderate heat, and quick drying!! the tight weaves dont clean as quickly as the relaxed weaves.
the walmart type crap, ya'll can clean with a blow torch or jack hammer. its fake stuff!!

i have always found the more difficult ones to clean are the blended fabrics. ya know, cotton and polyester or herculon, or whatever other plastic garbage manufacturers use.

keep the PH in check, moderate heat, speed dry after multiple dry passes. another good thing about speed drying is any area ya may have missed, or an area that'll still look dull after dry will be noticable right away, and can be remedied right then and there   ;)

keep this in mind. regardless of what type fabric yer cleaning, or what method of cleaning you choose to use, TEST THE FABRIC FIRST!!!!

Offline Mike M

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8832
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 08:42:16 AM »
One thing you might want to try is "padcapping" your upholstery. In other words apply your encapsulant, scrub, then use a towel to wipe down. Removed quite a bit of soil.

clearlypro

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 08:47:01 AM »
I think that is what i did. I used a miniature Op machine (dewalt DA sander) under which were cotton bonnets. Nadda. Honest. Zip. Zlich. Zero rooney.

Offline Mike M

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8832
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 09:06:14 AM »
Upholstery is similar to carpet cleaning. You try different things until you find what works on the particular piece you are cleaning.

I've had success with straight encap, padcap, HWE and combo. When you've cleaned as many pieces as I have you pretty much know where to start.

Some pieces will be trashed beyond cleaning. Do a small demo area if you need to verify then tell the customer to save their money.

Most people will let upholstery go until it is really trashed. A lot of the newer fabrics just can't take that kind of abuse.

Likewise, if you need to use combo methods to get something clean make sure you charge for it.

Offline Bill Martins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3850
  • Just do it
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 10:54:25 AM »
Uph takes way too long and most clients won't pay for our time, personally i charge high which to me i still think it's low.

Andy McFadden

  • Guest
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 07:32:26 PM »
Phil,
When I first started I used a piece of crap op stair tool, much like yours (modified car buffer from home depo or somthing) I t did a horrid job. Sucks on stairs too.  I would think a real op stair tool like the step son or the challenger one would do much better. I started turning away upohlstery work untill I could afford a decent set up. I got a use von shrader machine from Mike C. I love that thing it's dummy proof (so a good fit for me) dose a great job even on nasty stuff but takes a long time.
I hate doing upholstery but I have confidence when I do it now.

If you find a cheapo deal on a used one I say get it.

Offline Mike Charles

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 765
Re: Encap Upholstery
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 08:23:49 PM »
I'm looking for one now to replace the one that I sold to Andy... :'(

If I could have just one tool for upholstery cleaning, it would be the Von Schrader....but not using their chems. We still do a lot of the upholstery using the dry foam, whipped up in a small bucket and scrubbed in with a horsehair brush, then extracted with a vac or the Desiderio.

I found a used one that a guy wants to sell, but I want a slightly newer model.

If you are interested, PM me and I will give you this guy's number and details.





Advertise Here
 


Advertise Here