Author Topic: Encap Green with HWE (Read 1382 times)

luvsnow · « **on:** March 21, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »

Has anyone used Encap Green as a HWE pre-spray for upholstery? I noticed on the side of the bottle it says you can use it with HWE. If it works well with HWE then I won't have to worry about buying more HWE chemicals that I rarely use. I'll probably give it a try on my own furniture first to see how it works, but I was wondering if anyone else tried it and had any feedback. I know people use Encap Green for encapping upholstery with great results, but I was wondering how it works with HWE since it was developed mainly as an encap chemical.

Mo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:05:16 PM »

I have Snow. I spray the EG with my multi sprayer at the recommend dilution ratio, agitate with a horsehair brush and rinse with the spotter. The EG in the spotter is at a lower dilution ratio because it seemed to foam up a bit.

Mike M · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:25:14 PM »

I was wondering about foam.

Keep some defoamer handy?

luvsnow · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:41:44 PM »

That's great to know, Mo. Thanks for the feedback. My main concerns were foaming and it says whatever wasn't extracted will dry brittle and can be vacuumed. I don't know what kind of reaction the customer may have if they see little brittle pieces on the furniture after it dries. Foaming is the other concern because when I do carpets it sometimes foams up really bad. I can only imagine the headaches in my porty waste tank.

For upholstery or when I have to HWE a carpet I usually use Code:Green from Cleancraft. That stuff foams up pretty bad too, but the Encap Green I think would be worse because it's a "high foam" chemical. Putting defoamer in the waste tank didn't do anything with Code:Green and I always had to periodically check the waste tank for foam build-up.

kingjoelking · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:53:40 PM »

I would suggest getting intensity green. Then you can use it as a spike for pad capping and for hwe when you need to. I have used the intensity red for HWE and it works real well.

c spot stop · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2011, 03:03:08 PM »

Regarding red

I have also used it for padcaping with a tuway and it works great there too.

It will be mo go-to juice hence forth.

I love peroxy still but Red is just as good minus the organic stains.

and red is cheaper.

and I really stopped caring if the carpet is that clean or not. Right after they stopped caring.

so...it looks as if I have changed my mind again. Let it go.

ChemBright · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:10:34 PM »

Quote from: c spot stop on March 21, 2011, 03:03:08 PM

Regarding red

I have also used it for padcaping with a tuway and it works great there too.

It will be mo go-to juice hence forth.
I love peroxy still but Red is just as good minus the organic stains.

and red is cheaper.

and I really stopped caring if the carpet is that clean or not. Right after they stopped caring.

so...it looks as if I have changed my mind again. Let it go.

Well hell....there you go again changing your mind.

Red will be my main juice now too. I am also going to buy another Mytee porty.

I have used Encap green for upholstery and like mentioned above it does foam up in the machine. The product works good on upholstery though.

c spot stop · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:15:40 PM »

Ok Bill.

ChemBright · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:30:35 PM »

Umm...no, My name is Jon and I work for Kem Brite. But I do have a spare couch?

Gavin · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:43:53 PM »

I have heard a lot about EG, I want to try some but was wondering how it is supposed to be used, I have never tried encap cleaning so I feel pretty uninformed at the moment.

so do you spray it on with a sprayer and then use a OP or lowspeed buffer with a pad on it?

c spot stop · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:20:31 PM »

In a word:

Yes.

But IMO EG has come and gone for most VLM work unless you have a supply left from previous purchase.

Not to dog the chemical.

ChemBright · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:49:56 PM »

Quote from: CarpetCleaningBellingham on March 21, 2011, 07:43:53 PM

I have heard a lot about EG, I want to try some but was wondering how it is supposed to be used, I have never tried encap cleaning so I feel pretty uninformed at the moment.

so do you spray it on with a sprayer and then use a OP or lowspeed buffer with a pad on it?

Do not change a thing you are doing now and just replace Encap Green or any other encap product with what you are using now and clean the same way with your 175. It is then called "padcapping".

luvsnow · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:13:23 PM »

Quote from: c spot stop on March 21, 2011, 09:20:31 PM

In a word:

Yes.

But IMO EG has come and gone for most VLM work unless you have a supply left from previous purchase.

Not to dog the chemical.

Yeah I still have some left over but I do want to try out some of the newer stuff they have. It has worked very well for me though and it leaves a pleasant scent behind unlike hotknife.

c spot stop · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2011, 03:47:08 PM »

FYI: There are still a lot of guys who love EG... in fact, I still have a jug and am not afraid to use it...I just wont say anything about it here for fear of changing my mind.

EG works very well.

ChemBright · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2011, 05:42:59 PM »

I love EG. I think it works great and I would still be using it if it didn't clog up my sprayers after time. Great product.

Phil- It's been a couple of hours since your last post. Do you still like EG?

c spot stop · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2011, 06:36:11 PM »

Yes.

wait....

no.

wait.

yep.

Wait...

Lefty724 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2011, 07:37:39 PM »

LOL I have the same jug of EG that I have had since my order a couple of months back. The reason I have it is because I have quite a few different chems from Vacaway and have been playing with all of them.

I haven't done any upholstery with EG yet, but you bet I will be trying next chance I get!

luvsnow · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2011, 02:25:35 PM »

So I tried it last night on our basement microfiber loveseat. It worked great! I don't know if it was just a fluke, but I was shocked when I opened the waste tank lid and saw barely any foam! The code:green I normally use for upholstery foams up so bad it takes forever to rid the waste tank of foam. I'm satisfied and will be using encap green for upholstery. I'm also going to get my hands on some of Steve's new chems and see how they work too.

Jeff Brown · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2011, 08:55:54 PM »

If your rinsing I don't see a need to use an expensive polymer base cleaner, just use something that rinses easy.
I tried the Code Green a couple of years ago, it was a good cleaner but like you said a bit foamy.

John Bolton · « **Reply #19 on:** June 14, 2011, 11:58:05 AM »

A commonsense post Jeff!

An encapsulating SHAMPOO is designed to foam. It is also designed to encapsulate soil as it polymerises during the drying phase. If you are not going to allow the encapsulation to take place, why not use a product designed to be rinsed out? There are plenty of good products from which to choose.

Cleantech · « **Reply #20 on:** June 14, 2011, 12:15:15 PM »

with encap green yes, agitation is needed but that always helps in the cleaning department
not all are designed as high foam

there are actually quite a few hwe products that encap products, and work GREAT!

" Encapsulation has another significant advantage in all cleaning methods. Leaving crystallizing polymer residue in the carpet prevents spots from wicking back. The polymer encapsulates the wicking spot, creating a crystalline residue as it dries. This is just as effective in hot water extraction cleaning as it is with brush and bonnet. "

http://www.scotlabs.com/main.asp?zone=3&detail=9
Some nice reading there

Long time no see John! where have you been lol

John Bolton · « **Reply #21 on:** June 14, 2011, 04:25:06 PM »

CT,

Never enough hours in a day, what with moderating, cleaning, having chemotherapy, designing and building a new machine and trying to keep in touch with three grandchildren under three!

The forum has come on leaps and bounds since my last visit (great job Mike) and it's good to see that it has retained its' intergrity.

On the subject of the passage you quoted...................... How much residue would there be after a proper rinse? Sure the monomers would have started to combine but by the time any up-wicking occured there would likely not be sufficient free monomers remaining to make much difference.

Cleantech · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2011, 04:41:41 PM »

I know its a small amount sure.
One reason would be say you have employees. We know most of the time they do not clean as well as us, helps with mild operator error.

Every small thing we can add to our cleaning ability is a plus, besides they are usually priced competitively and clean excellent from my experience
The small amount, will still attract dirt to some degree, where as the polymer will not.

I am not saying its the end all be all lol, but even if it was just used to extremely dirty places, or restaurants would have a small benefit
If i was still cleaning with hwe still i would always have it on hand:) just another handy tool.

You definitely sound busy, nice to have you back posting though!

Look forward to seeing your new machine

TimO · « **Reply #23 on:** September 29, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »

Recently I've used Intensity Green and it's worked pretty well... if I over dilute, I have run into foaming issues. I've gotten very good results w/ Steamway's Ph-ber Guard. excellent on upholstery and NO foaming issues what-so-ever. It's like $33-$35 a gallon, but a little goes a long way

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Author Topic: Encap Green with HWE (Read 1382 times)