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Offline micky navarro

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combo method
« on: March 23, 2009, 08:18:58 AM »

using a combo method to clean a "dryclean only" fabric is really nothing new, a great many people do utilize it however, the way i did it may be somewhat different? a great many people also wet clean most dryclean only fabrics, me included.

hopefully most of ya'll remember my postings about how i no longer push for upholstery cleaning due to the many cheapo crap walmart type stuff on the market nowadays, and the folks not willing to pay premium prices!


first, always pretest the fabric by dabbing or lightly misting the cleaners yer gonna use.

i'd fine mist chemspecs heavy duty soil lifter, or cleancrafts o so clean onto the fabric. just enough mist to see it bead on top, and not soak thru.
then i'd spray on cleancrafts drymax, and brush with horsehair brush, especially the more soiled areas such as cushions and arms. i'd also use a very absorbant white cotton terry cloth, to begin pulling out the lil moisture that is in the fabric. then i'd mist on cleancrafts fibermax, to render both cleaners neutral, and to rid the fabric of the smell.
i'd then follow with my extractor to run air thru the fabric, and guarantee it be dry on the spot.

when i was hot and heavy with upholstery cleaning, i used this exact method an untold amount of times, and never once had a problem.
its also a great method for tapestries, lamp shades, drapes, and haitain cottons!

the key is not to use any added water, especially with the water based cleaners like chemspecs HDSL and cleancrafts OSC. the lil water thats in them already is enough.

i'll also mention, cleancrafts drymax is the best dry cleaner i have ever used, and actually smells very pleasant. most of the solvents in drymax are natural citrus based but it does contain a touch of OMS. most other dry cleaning solutions are almost all OMS and is why they stink the way they do.

the real killers are from some years ago like original argosheen. that stuff would clean anything but was loaded with stoddard(sp) solvents. thats the same stuff the dry cleaners used years ago. old timers will recall the smell of it when they picked up thier suit or coat from the local martinizing store.

i would venture to say most upholstery cleaning classes dont teach this method? it is very unconventional, but it works!

Offline Mike M

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Re: combo method
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 08:41:01 AM »
All good advice Micky.

I think that method or a variation called dry/wet/dry is taught today? Bridgepoint used to promote that method. Not sure if they still do?

We used to do the same thing when we came across a dry clean product that we knew wouldn't have a chance of cleaning. Informed the customer of the situation and risks then let them decide how to proceed.

First apply dry cleaning solvent (OMS or boosted with citrus), then a light wet method (could be shampoo, HWE or combo. Mild to acid PH), then vac it off and use a fan to speed dry. The point of the OMS was to keep the water from penetrating. The theory is water and solvent don't mix so the solvent keeps the water out.

I've found with the advent of "dry" upholstery tools that more fabrics can be safely wet cleaned. Adjusting the pressure on many of these tools will dictate the depth of penetration. The key it to clean the top of the fiber. That's where most of the soiling is anyway. Overwetting is what can get you into trouble.

Micky is right about the quality of upholstery out there today. Some of it is real crap. Somehow (salesperson?) the customer expects it will clean to look like new even after being in service for years without cleaning.

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Re: combo method
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 01:35:17 PM »
Micky, many of the names may have changed. Can you update this info for those of us who wish to try this method?

Offline micky navarro

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Re: combo method
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 04:49:52 PM »

not sure whatcha mean phil?


OMS = Odorless Mineral Spirits

HDSL = Heavy Duty Soil Lifter

OSC = O So Clean

argosheen was/is argosheen. its a solvent based cleaner.

is this it or did i miss whatcha askin?

clearlypro

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Re: combo method
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 05:49:00 PM »
cleancrafts fibermax, ?

wait... I missed it because I was looking for chemspec not cleancraft.

oops :)

never mind

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Re: combo method
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 07:22:48 AM »
Interesting. so, in short, you put the wet on first rather than the dry. Only you are careful not to really 'wet'?

Offline micky navarro

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Re: combo method
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 11:07:26 AM »

exactly phil, no over wetting.

even on fabric safe for wet cleaning, i never over wet.
2 reasons........

water stains

dry time

Offline noweare

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Re: combo method
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 05:29:46 PM »
Upholstery is really a challenge. I find that using encap and my stepson works well on
most stuff. Customers seem pretty happy and my water gets dirty so I must be removing
some of the soil. Is upholstery cleaning a dieing art?

clearlypro

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Re: combo method
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 05:47:29 PM »
Good question. Maybe.

But....a few years ago the yoyo made a huge comeback. why? because someone decided HE wanted to do it right.

Upholstery is a challenge but that may be why it appeals to me so.

(was the yoyo thing a stretch? :) )


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