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Re: O/O with Bob Savage's Electric TM
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
I think the basic idea is that he has a one of a kind vac motor, that can produce massive power with very little energy. Hope he stops in to comment, would be cool to hear about it.

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Re: O/O with Bob Savage's Electric TM
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2010, 10:07:03 PM »
He made it, probably should hear from him tomorrow.  I also emailed the other guy who owns one of Bob's unit.  The one w/ the element and trailer.

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Re: O/O with Bob Savage's Electric TM
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2010, 10:19:30 PM »
I own one and love it. Are you thinking about moing up from a portable? I started my company with one as well. I never stop smiling now.

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Re: O/O with Bob Savage's Electric TM
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2010, 10:23:53 PM »
I own one and love it. Are you thinking about moing up from a portable? I started my company with one as well. I never stop smiling now.

Hi Bill,

I've operated TM's before, some of us have or had them, also own portables, and many other tools.  Some of the guys had questions, I'm just showing what owners have to say about them.

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2010, 10:28:56 PM »
I will say the vac power is surprising with the booster. Forget prowler and tricked out portables this thing is the real deal.

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2010, 07:48:58 AM »
Good morning,

I thought I had posted something last evening in this thread, but I don't see it. ..lol

Bill Martins, it was nice talking with you in Nashville. Thank you for the invite to this board.

Yes, Bill, you saw right. There are 3 cords that go into a single cord.

The 3 cords are: the main vacuum system with APO pump (30 GPM), the high pressure pump (600 PSI max), and the heater. The heater needs 110V volts (less than 1 amp), to operate it's pilotless system, the gas valve, and the auto-relighter (in case a gust of wind came into the van).

Our patented heater is the star of our electric truckmount. It will provide all of the heat you would ever need for cleaning, without EVER turning it all the way up. It goes beyond other flow fired LP heaters, by using our exclusive patented after-burner circuit. The heater will heat water in the schedule 80 black pipe coils without having to key the wand every time. Once you key the wand, the heater senses it still needs to fire until the set temperature is reached. By doing this you have absolute even heat during the entire time you are cleaning, with no spikes, and no losing heat.

I had used the Little Giants for years (16 to be exact), and while they were hot, they still did not provide enough heat for dual wanding. The Little Giants (LG) also had a standing pilot that had to be lit, and extinguished by hand, after every job. Sometimes you forgot to turn the pilot OFF, and would drive to the next job with the pilot light on. With out patented heater, when you turn OFF your machine, the pilot goes OFF automatically.

The LG (little Giant) heater would also spike in the heat department because it was not flow fired, but would fire on it's own, until it was hot. Then it wouldn't come on again, until you were too low on heat. So there were spikes cleaning with the LG (Little Giant) heater.

The SAVAGE Electric Truckmount vacuum system is unique, in that the vacuum motor is direct coupled to the vacuum tank, using no hoses or bends. It's on top of the vacuum unit to dissipate any heat that is generated. The vacuum tank is as small as it can get, but uses a large diameter 7.2" Lamb vac motor, and has an amazing APO that will work for weeks without any attention to the APO filter inside the vacuum tank. WEEKS! In 10 years no one in the field has yet worn out the APO motor (draws less than 1 amp of power).

You can easily clean 100' from the truck and leave the vacuum unit inside the van.

We now have our new TWIN VACUUM FLOW available, for even higher vacuum power (capable of operating 250' from the van, and will run dual wands).

The vacuum tank is so compact (10" X 12" X 36" tall 42 lbs.), that if you have a great distance to the inside, you can lift the vac unit out of it's floor mounted base, and carry just it forward, closer to the wand.

Or, you can place our vacuum booster inline, closer to the wand. The vacuum booster has interchangable heads, if you want to have different vacuum dynamics.

A 2" tubed glided wand with 4 jets is now available for this system. I have tested it and am very pleased with it's cleaning ability, and dry times.

The pump design is our own, with a bullet proof chemical injection system using a truckmount Dwyer Meter, and safety features to protect the life of the pump seals.

There is the 600 PSI system, and also a 1200 PSI system. The 1200 PSI system requires a second cord.

When you have a job that is up several stories, or way inside, the vacuum tank, pressure pump, and optional dual element electric heater will load onto a 2 wheeled dolly, along with all the hoses, wand, and chem jug, for one trip in to clean. There is no need to have a truckmount, and a portable in your van because with our modular setup, you've got BOTH to tackle any job you might encounter with just one machine.

Thank you,

Bob Savage
Savage-1 Truckmounts
www.savage-1.com

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Thinking "Out of the BOX" — Designing for the Future

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2010, 05:45:42 PM »
Hey Bob, so with your unit there is no waste tank? Every time you go clean you have to find somewhere to run the APO hose? I can see where someone could just get a tank in their van and just pump in there, just want to make sure.

What kind of lift and cfm can someone expect at 100' of hose from your unit? Thanks

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2010, 07:19:43 PM »
I like Mytee's rotomolded tanks.

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2010, 07:46:44 PM »
With an auto pump out you wouldn't need a fancy mytee tank (expensive) because your not sucking thru it. Just somthing that will hold water. Can get a nice 50 gallon tank for around $100

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2010, 08:15:42 PM »
With an auto pump out you wouldn't need a fancy mytee tank (expensive) because your not sucking thru it. Just somthing that will hold water. Can get a nice 50 gallon tank for around $100

But I like fancy things.  ;D

 

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 10:29:31 PM »
Fancy BoY  :-*

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 11:49:31 PM »
Speaking of TM's...and their needs.

Guess who called me today out of the blue? Here's a hint..."greasy carpets thread".   ::)

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 07:55:38 AM »
Lefty,

There is a waste tank, but it is very compact, for 3 reasons.

1.  A small/compact waste tank has amazing rise times when cleaning, and maximizes vacuum.
2.  A compact waste tank is much easier to move around than a large one.
3.  A compact waste tank takes up almost no space in the van (it's tall with a small footprint, like a tower stereo speaker), so it takes advantage of cubic space, NOT floor space.

You could pump the APO into any container, it does not have to be a vacuum tank. Here in our area, we are allowed to pump onto the ground, as long as it cannot run into the driveway, street, etc. It must be on the grass or flower beds. That's good fertilizer, you know.

I don't have the numbers on the vacuum at 100', but I do have the visual of testing these distances with a clear PVC tube attached at the top of the cleaning wand. That tells the actual story of water recovery.

Remember, you can always move our main vac system forward and use just 50' of vac hose if you're ever concerned about dry times, but I personally clean with it at 100' feet, and have NEVER had a dry time complaint from any customers.

I have checked the carpet at the end of a job, and oftentimes the first areas that were cleaned are almost dry.
Bob Savage

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 11:34:06 AM »
Bill,
Would that be our old buddy Phil?

Bob Savage,
You mentioned your state allows dumping on the ground, I've been trying to find out if my state allows for that. I've done several on line searches, but can't find the information. Can you tell me were to look? Or key word to search for?

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 09:10:20 PM »
No Andy,

It was the restaurants I was doing monthly.

Mo,

Interesting link, around here they are pretty serious about water dumping.  So people must have waste tanks.

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »
Bob, the more i think about your machine the more I like it!

If you had to give us a size in gallons, what would it be? Around here we can't dump the water into the flowers or grass and I would not like to setup up hoses to go into a toilet or clean out!

Also, if for some reason I had to run a generator, how many watts would be sufficient? Thanks

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 05:55:35 AM »
The APO uses a standard 5/8" ID garden hose for discharge, not a 2" gushing dump hose coming from an 80 or so gallon waste tank, as in most truckmount waste water dumps. A small amount is discharged at a time - not enough to run off very much at all. It's subtle, and free of any fuzz, lint or junk. The 3 filters take care of that — The inline vac filter, the nylon bag inside the recovery tank (which hardly gets anything), and the APO filter itself. The tank will discharge 6 gallons for each cycle.

You can even carry an inflatable poly bag, that folds up for easy storage, but will hold up to 100 gallons of water, if you didn't want to have a solid barrel inside to use for waste water. I have the Web link for these collapsible bags if you're interested.

If you need to run a generator, it would take 1400 watts, or about 14 amps.
Bob Savage

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2010, 08:40:32 PM »
If you need to run a generator, it would take 1400 watts, or about 14 amps.

That is wild! You can almost just run a power inverter for your machine!

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Re: Bob Savage's Electric TM - Discussion Here
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 10:27:45 PM »
This might be the ultimate Electric Truck Mounted van.

Now you're almost 99% electric.

http://www.azuredynamics.com/products/transit-connect-electric.htm

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