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Offline Mike Charles

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Color Seal In Kitchen
« on: November 29, 2008, 11:55:24 PM »
Client was flipping a house, wanted the kitchen cleaned and color-sealed...

Before Cleaning...

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Offline micky navarro

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 12:44:37 AM »

nice work mike   ;)

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 03:32:02 AM »
Nicely done. bet they were happy!

Offline Grant D.

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 10:34:58 AM »
Very nice.  So when you color seal are you spreading something over the tile and the grout and it protects the tile and sort of protects and colors the grout, or do you just carefully spread it through the grout lines?

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 11:16:19 AM »
Mike looks good, i thought you sold all your tile/grout equip, i remember you had alot of stuff for sale several months ago, what did you use on this job?

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 11:34:04 AM »
Some color sealers are like epoxy, where you paint brush (scrub) them into the grout, using 2 coats to build up the finish. This leaves the grout lines slick, without a sanded finish.

The client wanted to retain the sanded look.

We were using a new color sealer from Magic Wand. You mix dye powder with the sealer (which is clear), to the desired color, and then apply just like a clear sealer. We used a small bottle with a brush on the tip to apply the sealer to the grout lines. It seals the grout lines while still leaving the sanded look, and evens out the grout color. Some of the grout lines were really stained with something that wouldn't budge, and the owner had replaced 4 tiles and re-grouted an area, so he was looking for an even coverage.

We used this particular sealer because he had stainless appliances, and even tho we taped them and covered them in plastic, if acid gets on them, the finish is etched and is hard to correct, if at all. This sealer's instructions strictly state not to use acid to clean, as is normal with color sealing.

In the 1/2 through photos, all that had been done was to apply the color seal to the grout lines. Nothing else done to the tiles. The color sealing really makes the color in the tiles pop.

We sold all our heavy, hard to load and unload Tile & Grout Portable and tools. We cleaned this with the tile and grout brush on the 17" Commercial Breeze, the blue tile and grout-line brush, and the $15 Shop Vac that we bought at Wally World on Black Friday. We had the fans already.

We decided not to do large areas of T&G, just kitchens, bathrooms, etc. so we don't need the big stuff.






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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 01:08:59 PM »
Nice, i went late to wally world and couldnt find that wet vac when i got to my local store, so i went to lowes and bought the 14 gallon one they had on sale for $29 on black friday.

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 04:33:01 PM »
Interesting.  Mike for these smaller jobs you do do you like using the CCS breeze with grout brush over your desiderio vapor steam machine for the t&g work?  (At least I think I remember you have one of those)

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 05:45:57 PM »
With the wide open area involved, and this much space (110 sq. ft), and how dirty it was originally, the CCS was the tool of choice.

The Desiderio would have been too slow, and not as effective in cleaning..we use it just with steam.

We have another T&G Color job scheduled for Friday, and we will use the Desiderio on that job for the walls, vanity and shower areas, while again using the CCS on the floor.




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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 09:39:19 PM »
Did you put a landscape squirt on your breeze too?

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 10:51:53 PM »
We forgot it :'(

..so had to do the plastic wrap...we were gonna wrap the stainless steel fronts anyway, just to be sure..

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 04:48:30 AM »
Very professinal Mike. Not many go to the trouble to mask off, good for you!

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 03:20:46 PM »
I rarely have to mask off anything, but when I do I use something like this, but with the "yellow" tape instead of the blue.

http://shopping.msn.com/reviews/3m-hand-masker-pre-taped-plastic-drop-cloth-pt2090-35/itemid1003278131/?itemtext=itemname:3m-hand-masker-pre-taped-plastic-drop-cloth-pt2090-35

I have tried similar grout stain products but have not had much success at coverage.  Have they gotten better?

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 03:25:21 PM »
This Old Grout is pretty good stuff. I stay away from the Big Box store products.

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 07:58:42 PM »
Mike which chems did you use to clean the tile/grout before applying the color sealer? Was it thru Magic Wand as well? If so, what did you use?

I have a friend's place to clean, charging her what my cost will be, which right now is almost $150 since i don't have all the equipment.  This is for tile/grout cleaning and color sealing.

It's 2 small bathrooms, was gonna use the vapor steamer on these, one is 50 sq ft and the other is 40 sq ft.  4 by 4 and 6 by 6 tiles. 

Will be using the challenger w/ tile/grout brush.
Vapor steamer(not sure)
Alki or Acid cleaner? I can go and get some StoneTech locally but it's costly since i don't have enough jobs yet.
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Offline Mike Charles

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 09:26:37 PM »
We used Anomaly from Steve Smith.

The Sealer Base that we used specified NOT to use acid. Using acid after the alkaline scrub is the norm when you color seal.


We also have used OxyBlaster from Magic Wand, several batches of beta versions of Alkaline and Acids from different manufacturers, and Procyon Tile & Grout Cleaner.




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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2008, 08:42:08 AM »
Right now I'm using TOG products across the board. Expensive, but good products. I am considering trying some Big Box stuff for the cleaning end, but when it comes to sealing and coloring it make a very bad impression at the end of the job if results are anything less than stellar.

I'm in the middle of a t&g project this week. Three bathrooms, combined kitchen and dining room, laundry, entry. Just for the sake of learning I decided to clean the whole project by hand rather than using the OP. Took longer, but hand scrubbing - with a pole and grout brush - all the grout lines and then repeating with an acid wash got nice results. I'm looking forward to sealing this job tomorrow to see how application goes after hand prep.

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Re: Color Seal In Kitchen
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2008, 06:59:23 PM »
This Old Grout is one of the better companies.  I say that with a little bitter taste in my mouth, as the owner gave me a bunch of crap for having one of his pictures on my site.  I was pissed that he made me take it down, but it's a local company so I must be true to the locals.  It is a very good product either way, and it is what I use. 

az

 


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