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Phil R

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« on: February 13, 2008, 01:04:04 PM »
During a recent chat with a supplier of chemicals (not Judson) the man to whom I spoke referred to his latest method. In short, he used a water claw.

He places a 'pad' underneath the rug and flushes well w/water only to extract using the claw.

Brilliant. At least to this novice......thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 01:51:53 PM »
Phil-
I think that is a great idea for area rugs , Thanks for sharing that.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 02:56:00 PM »
Jeff...the guy who invented your favorite odor chemical at interlink shared that with me. He had much to share regarding Hydrocide...

He really had tons of great tips and ideas...
apparently he does not get the chance to speak directly with the clients often...so he made up for it with me.

He had some awesome tips for odor removal....many I had never thought about and I have the IICRC odor removal patch stamp thingy. He is right in line with the way you and I think about that side of our stinky business.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 04:54:44 PM »
Phil-
 Glad to hear we're on board. Great you were able to talk with him. Any more tips please post.

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 04:53:41 PM »
Yeah, that IS a great idea.
That would be a pretty thorough cleaning for an area rug.

Thanks
Joe

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 12:35:03 AM »
Great idea, EXCEPT:  a lot of area rugs have a cotton backing.  Even olefin rugs do.  What does this mean?  Shrinkage.  Unless the cotton is pre-shrunk before it is made into the backing, you are about to buy an area rug that puckers up right before your eyes.  Solution?  If you are going to soak a rug, make sure and tack it down before it dries.  There are ideas on how to do this at the rug hub.  

The other problem is migrant dyes.  If you get a bleeder you do not want that rug to be wet for very long.  You need to spray, clean, dry very quickly to "contain" the problem.  

Just some thoughts.....

az

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 02:32:22 PM »
Az is right, guys be careful soaking rugs, Orientals especially.  Unless you know what you are doing you are going to buy some rugs.  If you are not educated in this field better stick to low moisture cleaning of these.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 03:30:54 PM »
I would think using the water claw would leave it as damp as a low moisture cleaning.

Do you think hanging it to dry would keep the rug in tension enough to cancel out shinkage forces?

If its a bleeder you wouldnt want to use an oscillator on it.  I took an upholstery class and they
said use spring clamp and a cloth with your cleaning solution to check out if it bleeds.

I found out the hard way that its better to rub with a clean white cloth with solution on any of the bright colors. That will show transfer where as the spring clamp check wouldnt.

Joe



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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 11:15:17 PM »
Joe, yes hanging a rug will sometimes be enough to cancel out slight problems, but you have to be careful how you hang it.  If you hang it over something thin, like a 2x4, you are going to crease the backing.  Also, if the rug has a fringe and you hang it the fringe could brown out because it stays wet too long.  Let there be no doubt that if you are going to get shrinkage from over-wetting it will be immediate, and hanging the rug will probably not solve it.  

As for the rug being just as wet with a water claw as regular cleaning, I disagree.  Normally I do not get the backing wet on an area rug, or maybe just slightly.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 05:43:07 AM »
Hum....might just leaves rugs alone.

Frankly, I am searching for new service(s) to offer my clients. I like everything everyone does...everywhere

I'll be the oil change, dryer vent, mattress cleaning, window washing carpet cleaner...who cleans ceilings and mows the lawn and babysits....guy.

Onehelluva business card eh?

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 07:06:06 AM »
Phil,
Have you started your business or researching ?
What services do you offer now?

I would do area rugs if I were you. There's alot of
them out there.

Joe

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 08:03:12 AM »
I am mainly a commercial window cleaner. I had focused on construction window cleaning for some time. Then I started moving more to residential side. lately, my clients have backed off resulting from our wonderful economy. I am having to learn more about marketing

I also added VLM carpet cleaning last summer with awesome results....and mini blind cleaning..

I went from doing construction window cleaning full time....to suddenly doing less of that and having to figure out what was next. We put a salesguy in the filed for commercial windows...and the ocassional carpets but found it to be very competitive.

so...my idea is to find a service that has more of a "need" than a want. Dont do your vents and your electric bill goes up (Mine did)....your house may burn down...etc.

I love doing the cheap area rugs like Home Depot sells...they always come out great. I vacuum, then use my rotovac, pad it dry, blower...post vac.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 03:26:21 PM »
Hey Phil,

Here's another service option for you. There was a guy who showed up at Pro Cleaners Network last week, he said he was making 15K per month cleaning Tombstones.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 05:06:07 PM »
There you go Phil get stoned and payed for it LOL

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 05:13:17 PM »
I am gonna need a bigger business card.

I must be ill.

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2008, 06:18:03 PM »
Yeah, there's a need for Tombstone cleaning, people are dying to get it done.

(Sorry, couldnt help myself)

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2008, 09:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Phil R

I love doing the cheap area rugs like Home Depot sells...they always come out great. I vacuum, then use my rotovac, pad it dry, blower...post vac.

That's about all I will do. Imported rugs are not to be messed with unless you really know what you are doing. I don't, so I am very picky on what rugs I clean. I also don't like doing them because they are a pain with an OP machine. hard to keep those buggers in one spot. Makes you look bad when the customer is watching. I usually end up doing them with my stair tool (Stepson).

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2008, 05:12:52 AM »
Chem: I ALWAYS take them home to clean. Just my .02

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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2008, 08:38:28 PM »
Yes, I nearly always use the stepson for area rugs or the hwe spotter if theres any crocking.
The rugs come out great. I also do a lot of orientals.

Phil, adding T&G would be fairly easy.

Joe

 


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