Speaking of pads..........

[ChemBright]

I am actually down to 5 Glads. I have been running them for about three months and frankly THEY ARE CRAP!!

I have always loved Glads. I dont know what is going on but these pads are shredding and turning to dust after every cleaning. They just keep getting thinner and thinner in to short of time. I am scrambeling for pads and really dont know what I am going to use anymore.

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[Grant D.]

Yes I've spent more $$ on pads in the last 6 months than I had in the previous 3 years. 

[jeffvanburen]

I'm in need of glads as well but holding off hoping for quailty improvement or alternate options on pads. Seems like the price went up and the quailty went down, frankly surprised that John has not fixed the problem with them yet.
I did purchased a look alike from Steve looked much thicker but tore around the perimeter where the edge bead is after 2 washes and became unsable after 4 washes.

[c spot stop]

My tuways are 3 years old. Look almost new.

I will leave a pad at a house (forget it and which house) so I am down to 4 pads.

But I use a 175. Wonder if that matters.

[John Geurkink]

I am not purchasing any more glads, the quality has gone down, however when dealing with pakistan, the options are limited, yet the other countries use clippings in the thread so they will not be any better. We have to purchase pads with 30k up front and another 10k before arrival with no recourse if they are not right, so, we are not purchasing them anymore.

Glads have cost me more money and lost revenue than anything we have ever carried. Because the quality can not be guaranteed, we have decided to drop them.

The original glads worked very well, our last batch of original was CLOSE, but there is no consistency I still have 1000's of terri looking glads, and they work fine on the older machines, but they do not stand up to the newer machines very well.

[Mike M]

I would also not do business with anyone in Pakistan right now.

That is too much money for anyone to risk.

Maybe its time for some US manufacturing? They would no doubt cost more but the supply would be more consistent and reliable.

[Mo]

I am actually down to 5 Glads. I have been running them for about three months and frankly THEY ARE CRAP!!

I have always loved Glads. I dint know what is going on but these pads are shredding and turning to dust after every cleaning. They just keep getting thinner and thinner in to short of time. I am scrambeling for pads and really dont know what I am going to use anymore.

I'm in the same boat Jon. Once you can see through the pads you're cleaning with the pad driver instead of a pad.

I too do not blame Jon. That's a lot of money to be paying up front for an inferior product. Isn't there a way you can duplicate that pad here in the US? I for one would be willing to pay a higher price for a pad that works and isn't disposable. 

Jon, Jeff or anyone else that owns an Orbot. Have you guys ever used the Super Zorb? I have read quite a few positive comments about the pads. They are durable but a little on the aggressive side.

[ChemBright]

I am actually down to 5 Glads. I have been running them for about three months and frankly THEY ARE CRAP!!

I have always loved Glads. I dint know what is going on but these pads are shredding and turning to dust after every cleaning. They just keep getting thinner and thinner in to short of time. I am scrambeling for pads and really dont know what I am going to use anymore.

I'm in the same boat Jon. Once you can see through the pads you're cleaning with the pad driver instead of a pad.

I too do not blame Jon. That's a lot of money to be paying up front for an inferior product. Isn't there a way you can duplicate that pad here in the US? I for one would be willing to pay a higher price for a pad that works and isn't disposable. 

Jon, Jeff or anyone else that owns an Orbot. Have you guys ever used the Super Zorb? I have read quite a few positive comments about the pads. They are durable but a little on the aggressive side.

If tht is the same pad that Vacaway sells then yes, I have used them and I still have 5 brand new ones. They are 22" and fold right up under my Orbot. They are more aggressive than a glad and not as much as a cotton. If they were more like 20" they would probably run better under my machine. The only time I canuse them is on berber carpet without them folding under. They are good scrubbers but just wont work with my machine.

[Mo]

Jon I just called Waxie in Mesa. They have the 21 inch HOS Super Zorb combo pads in stock there for $191.00 10 pack

[jeffvanburen]

The last SuperZorb pads I used did not last but a couple cleanings, rather than deal with trying to get them replaced under warranty i threw them out, the ones prior to that lasted fairly long. They were more aggressive than Glads and did a good job. After the last ones I just couldn't see buying for only a couple jobs, like throwing money away.

[Mo]

I've read that about the zorbs too Jeff. You just don't know what you're gonna get from one pad order to the next and to make matters worse you're forced to buy a 10 pack at $200.00 a pop.

[Andy Mc]

highway robbery

[bigchuckie]

I have been using Enduro pads from Challenger They have held up pretty well  I also have some Turbo pads that are pretty good . Not as absorbent as Glads but close

[Big O]

What kind of machine do you use Big Chuckie?

[John Geurkink]

Unfortunately there is no such thing as USA terricloth, heck most of the cotton in glads that are made IN PAKISTAN came from American cotton fields.

We need to do more for ourselves, however over the last two decades more and more manufacturing is going overseas and in the end we all get screwed.

Other than a bearing all of the trinity is Made in America... it costs more, but I am old school, I am tired of supporting enemies.

[Mike M]

Winter is about here.

Maybe I'll get out the spinning wheel and start making cotton for pads. 

[ChemBright]

Winter is about here.

Maybe I'll get out the spinning wheel and start making cotton for pads. 

And I will supply the cotton. They have been harvesting it all around me. We have TONS of cotton fields around our home.

[John Geurkink]

You two could make the whole industry happy by doing just that!

[Juan Rodriguez]

About four years ago, I visited a local seamstress with a large cotton towel. I asked her if she would double the towel, cut it in a 22" circle, saw a lining around the 22' perimeter and then saw the circle like you cut a pie. I showed her a cotton pad I was using for guidance. She was delighted to give me a bid to saw 100 cotton pads.

I went to the internet and found a company in NY that would sell me 100 towels thick enough to make the pads.

The cost for the towels, shipping, sawing and the pads to my specs came to $3.50 each. I am still using some of the pads and I was pleased with their durability.
The only problem for some is that the pads are cotton. If I find a cotton synthetic blend material, I just might visit the seamstress with another order. 
 

[Mike M]

I have given (and still giving I guess) some thought to making pads myself.

To do it on a larger scale would require an investment in machinery, etc. Not sure I want to part with that kind of money right now?

I have reservations about whether people would buy pads from me or buy the cheapest thing they could find. There isn't a lot of profit to be had in them as it is. As you can read John hasn't exactly gotten rich off them either.

[Mo]

Let me know if the blended pad works for you Juan and you can place an order for me.

A blended pad that doesn't tip bloom is critical in residential. The incident this week with that cut pile twist has me rethinking OP as a stand alone method. If I'm gong to be spending $400.00 a quarter on pads that don't last then OP cleaning just got more expensive and I can probably manage that. If pads don't stay under the machine and tear up after a couple of uses than my machine just became useless. Kind of reminds when the velcro on my stair tool wouldn't stay on the pad driver no matter how many times I glued it back on. The machine was inoperable and I had to use my 3 gallon spotter to clean stairs. That problem has now been solved.

If all all I did was commercial, pads wouldn't a big concern because you can scrub the hell out of the carpet. I cleaned a CGD carpet last weekend that wasn't responding very well I pulled out a white abrasive pad and went to town.

[jeffvanburen]

Juan-
I would throw my hat in to try some pads if you have anymore made, perhaps we could get a large order from members here, maybe set it up to pay with Pay Pal ?

[c spot stop]

And so it goes...

OP cleans better

they say. But the main machine out there is offered by a company with no customer service.

It cleans faster

they say but now, no special pads seem to be available.



I really like y 175 even more.

[Andy Mc]

Thanks for rubbing it in Phil.  
 I remember before glads came out , I would get real nervous before going to a job, Got frustrated with OP and almost gave up on it. Glads came out and saved the day.     With no glads, one would have to walk the balance between pads that won't tip bloom, but won't clean either, and pads that clean, but also tip bloom.  I did that dance with a mix of tuways and cottons (before glads).

Phil, how much safer is a 175 compared to OP regarding tip bloom? would you say a little , or a lot?   

[ChemBright]

Andy- I have never tip bloomed a carpet with a 175.

Mike- I would by pads from you just to support you and hopefully have a good pad.

Phil- Your ****.