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Offline Mike M

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Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« on: September 16, 2010, 02:47:41 PM »
Was thinking about utility of pressure and heater setups for HWE. Why do we need one for this and something for that?

Can one setup do upholstery, carpet, and tile with heat?

There are ways to do that. Ultimately a modular setup would be best. You need to decide whether you want gas powered or electric, burner or no burner. No burner kind of limits things.

How about an electric pressure washer, gas or k-1 heater, and a gas pressure washer. Needs to have pressure regulator and gauge so you can dial down to upholstery and up to pressure wash or do tile/grout. The heater needs to be able to take whatever pressure you want to be using. The burner needs to fire even at low flow rates. An add on injector setup could handle the chemicals.

Add to this a 120V add on heater for those times you can't run a line inside such as high rise or security situations.

As long as there are disconnects on everything you can add/subtract equipment to cover just about anything you would need to clean.

For added versatility add a flood pumper so you can do tile/grout, carpet, upholstery, etc.

The good thing about modular systems is you can load/unload what you need for that day's work. A small van would work for most cleaners which lowers overhead too. Also when you have equipment failure you can swap out components to get a job done.

Thoughts?

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 03:59:04 PM »
Im not pushing Duanes  (Accelerated cleaning systems) products. And Im sure there are many TM manufactures that could do this. But I know Duanes units so its easy to reference. But this is a easy slam dunk build. Duane's heater will withstand pressure washing pressures, has adjustable temp to handle from heavy grease removing heat to luke warm temperature sensitive upholstery. You could order one with a 5CP that can deliver pressure washing pressure and flow, and a APO that will pumpout captured water forever. You can order this in a TM small enough to fit in a ford transit or minivan.

Personally for pressure washing, I would not want to use a TM. I have my heater rigged with a quick connect though so I can feed the heater with my 14k dollar Tm or my 250 dollar pressure washer.

Its all about what you want and how much your willing to pay.

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 04:16:30 PM »
Right.

Most people wouldn't Pwash with their TM. You are using the heater which is cool. Now you have the option of using an electric or gas pressure washer with it.

If you could disconnect the blower with a clutch of some sort would that add flexibility?

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 04:37:11 PM »
Not really, the engine on the TM is way over kill for running just the pump. So I still wouldnt use it on a regular basis for just power washing. As it is I will use the TM for a occasional front porch or walk way, 15-20 minutes work max. Any more then that I would just hook up a pressure washer.

but for capability sake. I can do HWE carpet-uph and tile, turn off the pump and do flood work, and light pressure washing with heat.

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 05:55:23 PM »
Scott, what kind of dry times do you get?

The fact that a TM will do everything I need is a big draw.  I do like the fast dry times and closed doors and no hoses with OP but it would be easier, perhaps, with a TM

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 09:53:53 PM »
Dry times really depend on how dirty it is and how much air flow/humidity etc. 2-4 hours is normal without air movers.  Trashed will take longer.

I OP too, as a stand alone (Commercial) and in conjunction with HWE. I have a Brute and a Defender. I post pad nearly every Berber. I dont like to OP only on residential, but will under the right circumstances. But HWE does a more though job, and when that isnt enough I use both.

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 06:51:34 AM »
Those are good times.

I use a Defender and I have a Kwik Steam porty that I'll use together on real nasty stuff.  Don't think I'd use anything but OP on berber though.

Offline Bill Martins

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 11:10:39 PM »
Scott's TM is on my wish list.

Offline Cleantech

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 11:32:19 PM »
If I remember correctly your van is a 3/4 right Bill?

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 11:32:28 PM »
Isnt Bob Savages unit completly modular and electric?

http://www.perfection-carpet.com/savage1web/twinflow.htm

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 06:12:55 AM »
Isnt Bob Savages unit completly modular and electric?

http://www.perfection-carpet.com/savage1web/twinflow.htm
IF I ever lose my mind and go back to anything similar to a TM, Bob will be my guy.

But the day I decide to do that is the day I will eat a turd. Cud happen but not likely.


Offline Bill Martins

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 08:14:20 AM »
If I remember correctly your van is a 3/4 right Bill?

I have a 01 gmc savanna 2500 with 5.7l, is that 3/4?

Offline Cleantech

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 01:39:34 PM »
correct sir

1500= 1/2. 2500 = 3/4 and 3500 =1 :)

now depending on which accelerated system you go for the 3/4 would work just fine.  Worst case scenario you just add an extra lief spring to one side.

like mentioned my buddy installed his diablo with 100 freshin a 1/2 and only had to install an extra lief spring on the left side, those units are So light! Some of accelerated units are right around the same weight  :13:  I know i have pictures of it around here somewhere .... lol
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 01:43:38 PM by Cleantech »

Offline Mike M

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 05:13:13 PM »
IMHO any gas powered truckmount should go into a one ton.

The machine is only one weight. Water weighs 8.8lbs per gallon. If you carry water and equipment it adds up fast.

Offline Bill Martins

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 06:21:17 PM »
I'll wait till I get the Sprinter than.

Offline Cleantech

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 06:34:54 PM »
and that will be a nice set up

does Dwayne offer a diesel set up?

may as well just use one fuel source

Offline kingjoelking

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 12:06:12 AM »
Isnt Bob Savages unit completly modular and electric?

http://www.perfection-carpet.com/savage1web/twinflow.htm
IF I ever lose my mind and go back to anything similar to a TM, Bob will be my guy.

But the day I decide to do that is the day I will eat a turd. Cud happen but not likely.

When that happens I will donate the turd.

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Re: Can one pump and heater setup do it all?
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 06:19:48 AM »
Scott, could i bug you to post a few pics of your TM?


 


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