difference between 175 and orbot

[John Geurkink]

Like I have said, it is simple physics.

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compare what is going on under the machine to a machine simply turning around and around. What cleans is the number of times a pad goes over a given fiber of carpet in a given amount of time, really JOHN it IS that simple. I think you have built the BEST looking rotary I have ever seen, it is CLASSY, I am sure it does a great job, however quality of clean and speed of a rotary simply will not match OP, especially the Trinity on Speed three which is basically what we clean on all the time.
Your one pass statement can be also done with rotary.
No it can not, it doesn't move over the carpet fiber nearly as many times in a second. What you stated is physically IMPOSSIBLE.

I have been a cleaner since 1985 with my company and earlier than that working for others so I also have some time under my belt. Your statement goes to the fact that you think yours is king mine goes to the fact that yours may not be the best choice for everyone.
John, I started in 1974 with ROTARIES, soon found that OP did a better job, never looked back, yes chemistry has changed but the need to utilize that chemistry has become more wanting not less.

BTW when sanding, orbital is KING smooth, even, fast, easy and no lines of digs in the wood floor, rotary takes a ton of time and gives poor results.

Now, I agree, there is a NEED for both machines, as long as we agree they are not the same, I would have no horse in this race. I hope you do well with the beautiful machine you have built, I wish you nothing but success, truly. Other than a funny haircut you seem like a really nice guy and I am rather certain you and I would get along together real well, we both have a passion for cleaning. God bless you and yours this CHRISTmas.

Clark? Yeah have done business with Clark for many years, he builds some of my machines.

[John Bolton]

John, I am NOT trying to be confrontational, however I am a stickler for facts.
OP not only does a better job...
It does it faster..


........................... To do the SAME job as a OP you are required to operate the rotary n, s, e, w and then diagonally, ...........................

John,

I see a discussion rather than a confrontation, so feel free to differ! But if we are to examine facts we must accept that a circle traverses through all points of the compass and that all points on a rotating pad that traverse a carpet move through a constantly vectoring diagonal (spirally).

PS.

I made no comparison to relative cleaning efficiency but re-state that using a rotary in the correct manner requires less physical effort than an OP machine. I do, incidentally, feel that the action of an OP machine can offer a small advantage in a number of circumstances.

PS.

Either there are too many Johns in this discussion or I'm being confused with someone else as  though I have been using rotaries for over 45 years, I have neither designed nor sold them.

[CleanImage]

Cleaned with a 70 lb rotary....

Carpet Cleaning LST Commercial - Before

Carpet Cleaning LST Commercial - After

[Andy Mc]

Nice video clean image.  However I have to say, my OP would have got the burn marks out. 

[bigchuckie]

Cleaned with a 70 lb rotary....

Carpet Cleaning LST Commercial - Before

Carpet Cleaning LST Commercial - After

Nice work Phil how is that new rotary working out?

[CleanImage]

Andy: I'm sure your OP could have taken out those burns due to the incredible number of rotations it makes. It's physics.

Bigchuckie: I'm loving the Orbis. I was a little concerned about how light it is and that it wouldn't clean the nasties as well, but so far, it's great. I think the added RPM's help. It isn't built like a tank, so we'll see how it holds up with day to day in the next couple years. But honestly, even if I had to buy another in 2 years, it's still a good deal. I just love how light it is.

I think with todays chemicals, you can clean with almost any machine and do a fantastic job.