Author Topic: durrmaid's new extractor? (Read 1320 times)

micky navarro · « **on:** September 06, 2011, 02:33:13 PM »

the same fellow i posted about in the vlm forum also has this video of durrmaids new machine? is this what was supposed to come out a few years ago but never did?
personally, i cant see how a machine with 3- 2 stage vac motors, along with an apo, can run on a single circuit?
the lowest amp draw of a 2 stage motor that i know of is roughly 7.5 amps at 115volts

300+cfm? sumtin dont sound right............


DurrMaid 300 cfm machine

i must admit, looks very interesting though.

c spot stop · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2011, 04:14:03 PM »

Micky, I think he is using a converter from the 220.

ChemBright · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2011, 07:12:22 PM »

Cant watch video....says it is private?

c spot stop · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2011, 09:03:56 PM »

it did not say that earlier...

mine does too now..

so, you take the time to upload a video to youtube...and then make it private?

Some people should walk in front of a train. Or let me push em.

Cleantech · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2011, 09:20:52 PM »

ive wanted this machine for a long while....
glad to see its getting closer

ChemBright · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2011, 10:45:41 PM »

Is this machine available and how much?

ChemBright · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2011, 10:46:50 PM »

And frankly.... I am getting sick of Dennis's website not being built yet. Seems everything takes a ton of time with Durrmaid? I can't go on there and learn a dang thing about his products.

Grant D. · « **Reply #7 on:** September 06, 2011, 10:52:11 PM »

That machine has been "right around the corner" for about 4 years now. Don't hold your breath. I think it was well over a year ago they put up a booth at connections and had one there. Looks like that turned out to be just another prototype. It will likely be a great machine whenever it shows up, but until it's actually on a website "for sale" I don't think I will believe anybody that says it's going to be ready within "a couple months".

micky navarro · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2011, 10:14:06 AM »

maybe the dude that put the vid on utube made it private? kinda strange if ya ask me!
i'd have to question the intellegence of the durrmaid owner if he is the one to make it private.
why build what seemed to be something very interesting, and then deny free promotion of the product. these forums are a god-send for introducing something new!

maybe i am really getting old but............

c spot stop · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2011, 03:00:03 PM »

I'm with you Mick

it seems insane....unless he has already decided to redesign it.

Jim England · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2011, 03:06:23 PM »

Well, I guess I am going to have to reply to this thread. I will try to explain what happened. First as far as DurrMaids web site. Dennis has not done anything with it because he is selling mostly through dealers and primarily with me. It is hard to make and develop equipment and handle all the stuff that goes on with sales. HOS ran into this same problem. As you know I have been working with Dennis on this new machine for a couple of years now. Yes it has been slow going and I have been as frustrated as anyone, but I also won't sell anything that I don't think will do what it is advertised to do and is not long term reliable. So we have been testing different prototypes and making changes. We showed it at the national trade show last year to get a feel of what people thought and also get suggestions they might have. We currently have machines in Europe that have been tested and we are filling a large order for them right now. The machines for the states are basically ready to build, but we are waiting for the final testing to be completed. Now the machine you saw on the Video was made by a contractor in Alaska that was sent a machine to test and use. He send the video to a few people to show them the machine and it made its way to some of the boards (prematurely). As you can see he has sense blocked it, as we don't want it out yet, until we are ready with a full demo. As far as the one cord goes, that machine actually had two pigtails and was plugged into a single heavy duty extension cord. Yes it does have 3 two stage vac motors with a 5 gallon per minute pump out. It will work on a 20 amp circuit, and has actually worked on a 15 amp circuit. That is because when you turn on the vac motors one at a time there is no huge surge which is what usually blows the fuse. Also when you put the wand on the floor (which works the motors) the amps drop by 2 to 3 amps. The pump out uses about 1 amp when it is running but only runs periodically and then only briefly. Most circuits will work over their rated parameters for a while. Now this new machine will come with two cords initially and will use two 115 amp circuits. But our tester has been using it with one cord with no problems, not necessarily what we recommend.

Now on to the new machines. I have the newest and the most powerful of these machine at our place now. We have been testing it and still are. I will be making a comprehensive video of the machine as soon as all testing is done (which should be very soon). This machine has 3 three stage vacs in parallel, auto fill and dump. It has 300 cfm and a 144 inches of lift. You will also be able to order this machine with 3 three stage vacs in Series giving you 240 inches of lift at 100 cfm whichever you think is best for your situation. That will be true of all the machine. This machine works on a true 220 volt system and uses a patented circuit system that plugs into two separate 115 outlets. Running a true 220 system draws less amps so when actually cleaning the unit only draws about 12 to 13 amps, this is a huge advantage as no worry about blowing circuits. These machine can be ordered with 2 two stage vacs, 2 two stage vacs, 2 three stage vacs, or 3 three stage vacs all in either parallel or series. The will come with variety of pumps from 200 to 1200. They will be able to be used directly from a faucet should you desire or if a pump goes down (more on that later). Also no defoamer will be needed. I have run of time, but wanted to get this posted. I will try to post a little more tomorrow on these machines as they have a lot of features. I don't have time to proof read this so I hope it makes sense.

Cleantech · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2011, 04:55:46 PM »

thanks Jim ( as always )

now to just decide which model.....

micky navarro · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2011, 05:08:55 PM »

ok jim, you'll really need to elaborate on this cause it seems to be a tad confusing. i do not claim to be an electrician by any means but unless this machine is going to utilize 3 phase w/inverter, or, digital motor controllers, i cant see it possible on one cord to run 3-3stage vacs? let alone 3-2stage vacs? unless i've mis-read the whole dilly which is a possibility

some of my duct cleaning vacuums utilize the system i mentioned above, and they run on a single cord right at 15amps!
they have 1.5hp baldor motors with motor controllers, and run at 3450rpm, producing over 2500cfm's.
i know these are a different vac motor all together but the common ground here is amps!

i also know ametek, domel, and a few of the other big name motor manufacturers are coming out with newly designed motors, designed specifically for use in "wet/damp" applications, and they have for once, actually listened to requests from the folks working in the trenches! its also nice to see machine manufacturers finally listening to the needs/wants of the masses too

as far as being able to run a lil higher with amps on any given circuit, this i know is true. if i recall, a 15 amp breaker can handle an add'l 2 amps, as long as its under load, and not running free? maybe someone with more electrical know how can chime in here with this!

i for one would love to see this machine come to fruition, and be able to run as said

Mike M · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2011, 06:59:43 PM »

I hope you guys haven't seriously waiting for years for this machine to come out.

If you had work to process and could be making money buy a machine and get to it.

The reason to buy equipment is to make money.

ChemBright · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2011, 07:17:05 PM »

I have 32 jobs on hold because I have been waiting for this Durrmaid unit. My custys are getting angry!

micky navarro · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2011, 02:31:06 PM »

i guess jim is not gonna reply to answer the questions

Jim England · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:50:53 PM »

Sorry it took so long to respond, but I had a lot going on, and actually came here a couple of times to respond only to get interrupted. Micky not sure what you mean by this machine I assume you are talking about the one in the video. If that is the case then all I can tell you is that Coby the guy running the machine stated to me on the phone that he was running the machine on 1 cord and has done it many times. Now as I stated above that machine actually has two cords, but he plugged them into one cord and ran the machine. As you can or could have seen, it was certainly running. I know for a fact that that machine has 3 two stage vacs. I also explained how that was possible. Because the amp draw drops three or four amps when the wand is on the ground and the motors are being worked, as opposed to when they are flowing freely with no restrictions (which is when they draw the most amps). Also almost any circuit will run over its rated power for a period of time. But again in this case I am only going by what he said and what was on the video.

If you meant the machine I have with the 3 three stage vacs that unit is a 220 volt unit and runs on two separate 15 amp circuits using a patented special circuit board. We have been using this technology for over a year and it works fabulous. A light on the box tells you when you are plugged into separate circuits, making it easy to do. Most rooms and every house or business has separate circuits through out it. This machine has some serious power, and will be available in either series or parallel. It is very compact and is light weight weighing only 38 lbs. Can fit in the front seat of a car.

Here is how it will work. If you want to use the water from the building for your cleaning (like the Steamon Demon and the Rotovac power pod does) as opposed to using a pump. Then you hook the solution line up to a faucet which feeds to the machine which feeds to the wand. In this scenario you could use a wand with much larger jets (which we are testing now) to get a much higher flow of water with less impact on the carpet. This will act more like flushing the carpet. This avoids driving water at high pressure into the carpet which can lead to a wetter carpet and longer dry times. The more flushing the more dirt removal.

If you want to use a power pump then depending on the pump (from 200 psi to 1200 adjustable psi) then bring the pump in and set it next to the water supply (typically the sink) and plug it in, and hook the supply hose to the faucet. If that is not possible because of the faucet configuration or the aerator won't come off or whatever the reason, then you can use a special collection cup and set it in the bottom of the sink or water closet, bath tub or whatever. Adjust the water feed and the cup will supply the pump (this is really a neat feature which I will show on the video). You can also run the pump to a Little Giant heater if desired (but in my opinion not needed).

Because of the power of 3 three stage vacs you will have the option of leaving the machine at the sink, doorway, van, garage, or outside and running a long lose into the building. Or you can keep the hose short like 25 feet and have the unit with you in the building. It is designed kinda like a canister vac and is easily pulled or pushed around. With 25 feet of hose you can leave the unit in the hallway and clean all the bedrooms and then the hall. You can also clean most any stair case without moving the machine. The machine moves so easily and is small and compact I don't see any reason to leave it by the sink and run long hose runs. The longer the hose the more lose of suction. 25 feet will give optimal suction and ease of use. But there are guys that like to run a longer hoses and clean. The machine has auto dump. The hoses unlike the Steamon Demon are smaller and much more flexible, making them so much easier to use. The machine will come standard with 25 of solution and suction hose from the machine and 50 feet of solution and discharge hose from the machine to the sink and or drain giving you a 75 feet of cleaning distance. You can connect additional 50 foot sections of those hoses, each section of hose has a ball valve so you won't have to worry about dripping any dirty water out of the hoses while disconnecting them.

The filter for the machine is located in front of the machine and has a large easy to clean 200 mesh cloth filter. The filter can be quickly cleaned or change out. Because of the filtration system this machine can also dry vacuum. So you could use a air powered vacuum head or any vacuum head and pre-vac or post vac the carpet without having to bring in a separate vacuum if you wanted. The vac motors are on top and easy to get to so repairing or changing them is simple and quick. The discharge motor is located in the bottom of the machine and unlike the Rotovac CFX units is very easy to get to and repair or replace.

There are more features but we are going to make a video in the next week or two. So we will post it here first which I had said I would do over a year ago. I haven't said anything about this machine since then because it kept getting delayed. But now that I have an actual machine I am more confident talking about it. More later

chrissalter · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »

COST?

micky navarro · « **Reply #18 on:** September 13, 2011, 12:39:02 AM »

thanks jim, we shall anxiously await the vids!

cost? i'll guesstimate its gonna run upwards of 3500 clams!

Jim England · « **Reply #19 on:** September 13, 2011, 10:05:15 AM »

Estimated cost for the most powerful unit, 3 three stage vacs with the 1200 psi adjustable pump will be less than $3000.00. Hoping several hundred less. Will know real soon. Will get the video as soon as some more optional parts come in in the next day or two.

c spot stop · « **Reply #20 on:** September 13, 2011, 09:15:58 PM »

Only decent thread here in weeks.

micky navarro · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2011, 07:46:09 AM »

Quote from: Jim England on September 13, 2011, 10:05:15 AM

Estimated cost for the most powerful unit, 3 three stage vacs with the 1200 psi adjustable pump will be less than $3000.00. Hoping several hundred less. Will know real soon. Will get the video as soon as some more optional parts come in in the next day or two.

video in the next day or 2

hmmm, i'm starting to think this machine will never come to be!

Cleantech · « **Reply #22 on:** October 02, 2011, 11:47:23 PM »

Im thinking the same thing Micky
Im at a point where i am seriously considering the 3,3stage and adjustable pump unit. It would be a huge upgrade over what im using currently and i DO not want to start looking at other brands. Period

Jim how loud is the unit? quieter then other portables or on par with them?
it would be nice if he was able to silence it somewhat.

micky navarro · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2011, 09:42:44 AM »

well, its been nearly one month since jim e sed in a couple days he'd have more info on this new fangled machine. i just cant wait any longer so i'm gonna order 8 rotovac cfx's!

oh well............

Andy Mc · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2011, 07:59:57 PM »

it's a mythical creature like the Jack o lope. Some say they have seen one, but never any hard evidence, other then a fuzzy video or photo (that may ,or may not, have been doctored.)

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Author Topic: durrmaid's new extractor? (Read 1320 times)