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Online Mike M

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Vacaway Pig Out
« on: May 10, 2008, 12:12:41 PM »
I got this spotter compliments of Steve at Vacaway.

Great volatile solvent. I had a couple pieces of gum and it took it right out. Also grease spots. I didn't find the odor objectionable but you know its a solvent. The best part of volatiles is no rinsing.  ;D

I still use Cyclone as my main spotter but there are just times when you need a volatile solvent. This one is as good as any I've used.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 12:58:12 PM »
Pig Out is a great solvent! I love the smell of it too. I have been using it for a few months along with Cyclone HWE. Between the two you know as well as I you can do almost anything.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 01:59:42 PM »
will it remove old girlfriends?

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 04:57:48 PM »
will it remove old girlfriends?

You might have to "agitate" and apply some "heat" for that.
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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 05:56:06 PM »
I can do both :)

I can also do this:

aggitated heat

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 07:36:52 PM »
Phil - You should be good to go then.  ;D

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 09:26:40 PM »
Regarding old girl friends, depends on what they left behind. :o

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 09:58:12 PM »
Mike,
I've owned a few bottles of this for quite some time and frankly just haven't been using it for the last few months.  I guess I'm missing out?  I don't understand too well what the best uses for a "volatile solvent" are.  When would you elect to use this over cyclone or other spotters? Really the only time I've been taking this out is when there are really bad ink stains.  It didn't do anything to gum when I tried that. Wouldn't hel gel be better for gum and grease?

Just trying to pick your brain so I know when to use it.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2008, 06:12:28 AM »

You are absolutely right about starting with Cyclone. As a "green" cleaner you would want to start with that or Helgel anyway and not break out a solvent unless you need to.

Before Cyclone we used solvents for spotting so I guess volatile might be considered old technology. The best thing about Volatiles is that they don't need rinsing. As a for instance, you get done with the job and see a spot on the carpet. In the old days the first spotter we would get out is the volatile because it doesn't need rinsing. With most spotters on the market you would have to rinse out some how. Volatiles are the one spotter in most kits that don't need rinsing.

This spotter works fine for gum. You need to apply, let dwell a bit then agitate with a Gum Getter or similar tool. If I have a pile of gum to get out I go with a solvent of some sort. Most of the volatile solvents out there today take a bit to evaporate so they almost act like the old wet solvent. The old dry solvents we had would evaporate very quickly so they had "wet" solvents that didn't evaporate. Those had to be followed by "dry" solvent to remove the "wet" solvent from the carpet.


There are certain things that only really react to a solvent. I guess with the Vacaway line try your other vlm spotters first then go to the volatile. This is just the opposite of what we used to do.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2008, 08:05:14 PM »
Good thread, I bought a gallon of PigOut about a 6 months ago.

The only thing I know about it is what I learned in upholstery class,
If you dont know what kind of stain it is you use a volatile solvent first.

I used pigout a couple of times but I can not stand the smell. It really lingers
and I also dont like that its very flammable.

The most confusing thing to me about carpet cleaning is the correct use of the spotters.
For example, Cyclone, Hel-Gel orange and PIG out are all essentially used for the same type of stains
They are all POG/PIG removers it's just that Cyclone is the healthier choice and safer choice, followed by hel-gel then PIG out.





 

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2008, 05:45:31 AM »
I have found it is easier to remove a pig, than to teach him to sing. But either way, the pig will get annoyed.

I have also found one cannot remove goat urine. Unless there is a GU remover I have over looked.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2008, 07:11:06 AM »
Phil,
You gotta get outta the barns and farms and into some populated places.  ;)
You need your own "special" spotting kit that now one sells.
I see a whole new industry popping up just to supporrt you.   ;D

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2008, 04:53:18 PM »
Joe, I ordered a 16 oz bottle of pig out when it first came out. They have also sent me sample bottles of it, and another bottle of it came with the spotting kit when I got it.  Out of all that I've used about 3 ounces of it in 6 months?? I know that's not much but everything I've put it on didn't do much except for a few small ink spots.  So the last two month I don't even think I've touched it.  Maybe I'm missing out. I was thinking about taking it out of my spotting kit before this thread. The smell is a bit strong.  Probably needed to cover up all the chemical odors so had to make it that way?  I know the ink removers I tried before vacaway stank really really bad.


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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2008, 07:34:02 PM »
I took it out of my kit a while ago too, but now where it fits in the
hierarchy of chems mayble I'll put it back in.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2008, 10:12:14 PM »
HAIL! PIG OUT!

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2008, 10:43:11 PM »
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The most confusing thing to me about carpet cleaning is the correct use of the spotters.

Do you guys not have the electronic spotter program from Steve?

You put in the type of stain, and it tells you what to use and how to use it...


I keep a copy loaded on my tablet PC that's in the van, so when we come onto something new or different, I can find the correct answer.

Saves me cell phone calls to Steve...

Saves him from having to talk to me...


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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2008, 06:43:43 AM »
I dont have an a palm or anything like that on the van.
I printed out his sheet so I have that as a reference and its very good.
But I like to know the reasons why x is used first, y is used 2nd and so on...


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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2008, 03:22:18 PM »
Anyone got a link to this tool?

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2008, 06:44:37 PM »
I've not heard of the electric spotter program, unless you're just talking about the download?

I use this as a quick reference and keep a printed copy nearby. As you can see by most of the types of spots, the general rule is "when in doubt, cyclone".

http://vacaway.com/spotting_guide/Spotting%20Chart.pdf

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between Catchup and Ketchup   :D...
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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 09:28:57 PM »
It's a Microsoft Access Database program that I got from Steve. It's called Vacaway Spotting Guide.

I looked and date of creation was in Sept. 2007. He didn't say anything about it being a one of a kind.

You start it up, and enter the type of stain into the search box, hit enter, and it tells you what spotter to use and how to use it...on some stains, it gives you multiple answers..

Maybe I got it because I'm special.... 8)


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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 09:57:59 PM »
I have had it for months and have never really used it. It's on my desktop, I might have to mess around with it. Guess we are both special.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2008, 03:04:53 AM »
I had a horrible set of dining chairs. Custy was happy i was not. Chairs looked way better but still ton's of stains left.  :-[ :-[. Used "all solve", "citrus solv", and "Avenge" no clue how to get the rest of the spots out. i NEED A CLASS!!!!!!!   >:(   argh!!!!!!!

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 08:11:16 AM »
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no clue how to get the rest of the spots out

When the spots won't come out, they're called stains.


Don't assume ownership of the problem. If you do your best, then you did your best. We promise clean, not resurrection.


Classes are a good idea, tho.


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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 09:47:07 AM »
Mike is right..........Classes are helpful.

Spots on chairs would probably be caused by food/drink? Solvents won't generally help here. You need a protein spotter or enzyme. Possibly a dye remover as well.

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Re: Vacaway Pig Out
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 04:24:48 PM »
Used Pig Out to remove red marker on upholstery today. Wiped it right out!


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