I heard Grant mention in a post somewhere that Encap Green might become his main cleaning agent. Nice to hear another good review about it. I am running my Quantum Green out and then will give Encap Green a shot.
Does it seem to work well on traffic areas? What does it smell like? This post leads me to another question. How do you all like the "perk" for ordering through Vacaway? Steve S. has made it very benificial in my book. I can't decide if I am going to do the Cha Ching thing yet though.

I encapped my carpets with it last week with a tuway, and it did a great job. The orange smell seems to go away quickly, I wonder if it has colliodal silver in it like wham.

I like it.  I've been so slow the last couple of weeks though I'm forgetting what's what...

You and me both brother! Just this last few day have been dead! Everytime a dang little holiday comes up, business slows down for a week. Whatever happened to getting moms carpets cleaned for a Mothers day present??? HUH? 

I bought my mother a coffee maker instead. 

And I bet you go next door and drink out of it too? Selfish! Just selfish! 

I have decided to go to just two chems also, VLM/TLC for green and Blaze for everything else.
Decided to skip the middle one PadCap Pro.

Does encap green need to be mixed with a booster like VLM?

Joe

Can a chem be "green" and have a health
rating of 1 and have an odor?

What about people who have sensitivites, allergies or infants.

I've been in homes using Pad Cap Pro and people have asked if I had
something with less of an odor because of their sensitivites.

Joe

No jokes here:

I too like the smell of HK. I have not had opportune to use it yet, but in the bottle it has a nice scent.

Anyone know what that is?

Many products we use could be labeled "green" if the manufacturer were willing to pay the high fee for the label. I don't really like the way that system works. Making manufacturers pay for green labeling is like extortion. This should be done and run by an independant body of some sort. Maybe EPA or some other government organization?

Very true, again the board is tilted to the larger companies with the deep pockets to pay.

I pretty much agree with what all of you have said.  I feel that saying we are a "green" cleaner means/should mean that the product is safe for the indoor environment (no petroleum distillates, harsh chemicals, kidney/liver toxins, etc.) and waterways/environment (biodegradeble and preferably with as many "readily" biodegradeble ingredients as possible). 

It would make more sense if the health rating scale was something like 1 through 10 or 20 instead of 0 through 4.  3 and 4 are basically "if you use this your customers will die" so now we are basically left with all cleaning products being 0 through 2, which doesn't distinguish them very well IMO.

Abstraction, quantum green, orbit natural are true health rating 0 type products.  On a larger scale of 1 through 10 they would still be a 1.  I don't know enough about what's in the HOS Environ to know why/how they say it has a 0 health rating, esp. considering it has something in it that seems to make people sneeze.  I'd say something like encap green, green surround and environ all are just slightly less green than the true "all natural" products. These are basically chemical free, green products with a very small amount of polymer added for the encap effect.  I see no difference to the health of the indoor air quality with these products except in cases where people note a high sensitivity to any odor whatsoever, or if they have birds as these animals can react to even mild odors.

It's really too bad that some products which shouldn't be considered green by any stretch have basically been able to buy a green seal approval.  This has ruined the "system" for everybody.  The cost also makes it too pricey for all the little guys to take part.

Joe: Encap green doesn't need to be mixed with anything.  I use it basically when you would have used padcap pro.  You'd still want to switch to your vlm/tlc mix for folks needing odorless cleaning. 

I am also trying to get down to stocking only about 3 or 4 products.  One main cleaner that is "green", One natural/odorless/chem-free product for those needing odorless cleaning, something with the ph slightly acidic for some uph and wool area rugs, and something else that isn't green for the occasional custy who doesn't care about green and just wants you to "nuke" the place so they hopefully don't have to replace the carpet.

Interesting thread. Met a guy at a trade show a few months back that works in Madison, Wisconsin as a mobile car detailer. He talked about the 'Green Squeeze' on his business. Madison is a way trendy town when in comes to environmental issues. Not only do customer ask him about the toxicity of the chems he uses to detail cars, but the city, through ordinance, requires that he recapture all water that he uses to clean the vehicles. Didn't ask him how he gets rid of it.

Eric